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Today I was harvesting Clusters in Mor Dhona and there was this random shout telling people to blacklist a person for being a ninja looter. (Meaning they roll lot for loots they aren’t meant to roll? Or probably rolling need when other people use greed?)

The accused person defended himself (for ease of writing, I’m going to assume Crotheon is a “he”) and said he had the chatlog to prove it, so I volunteered to help (as his own shout won’t be able to clear his name because those who blacklisted him won’t see anything from him).

Note, though, that he seemed to have mixed up Wistrol Wistrol with Skyline Infinity and thought Wistrol was the one who asked that question in the raid.

So here I am, uploading the screenshots of the chatlog.

From the chatlog, Crotheon didn’t do anything wrong about looting. So, the accusation of him being a ninja looter was based on misunderstanding or false information. In my opinion, he doesn’t deserve to be blacklisted.

——————— UPDATE ——————-

Last night when I wrote this entry, it was very late at night and I was sleepy. Today I reviewed the chatlog again and wanted to add something.

I’ve marked number 1 to 6 from the above chatlog to make it easier to follow along:

I am assuming that the loot that Wistrol was thinking about was the Caster’s Bracelet, because from the screenshot, it seems to be the only loot that could have been troublesome.

First, look at loot table, which is the loot declaration of all the raid members in party. Note that at (1) and (2) the table shows that there are 2 members who declared Caster’s Bracelet: Crotheon himself and Skyline.

At (3) Skyline asked, as direct question addressing Crotheon, whether they are going to need or greed.

(4) Crotheon answered “Let’s need it”

(5) Skyline said “kk”

(6) Crotheon rolled need and got the drop. Please note that Skyline DID NOT roll need. It must have been either greed or pass, because when someone “need” your greed roll won’t show up.

From (1) and (2), we know that Crotheon had all the rights to  loot the Caster’s Bracelet. Why Skyline didn’t “need” is, however, a mystery. But in this circumstance, it is not Crotheon’s fault, as he played by the rules, or agreement. It is also by no mean a “ninja looting.”

I assume that the Mor Dhona shout from Wistrol occurred right after this raid run. Yet, I heard nothing from or about Skyline. I’m going to assume, again, that Wistrol’s accusation was caused by some confusion or misunderstanding while being a bystander, because Wistrol didn’t even declare the Caster’s Bracelet, according to  the loot table.

Now if we look more closely, the line between (4) and (5) was Crotheon saying “carbon need.”  — A random person who saw my shout (linking to the screenshots uploaded by Lucius) in Mor Dhona sent me tells to discuss about it. He or she speculated that there might have been confusion about what to roll need, as the party was talking about 2 items at the same time.

Upon reading the chatlog thoroughly, I agree that someone might have midunderstood Crotheon’s answer about “need” and thus started saying he ninja looted something.

If you are the person who are spreading the words about Crotheon being a ninja looter, or if you have a friend who is doing so, I ask that you kindly (tell the friend to) stop, reconsider, revoke the accusation, and reconcile if possible. It is unfair to throw such accusation and discredit a person in such large scale (like shouting in Mor Dhona) without carefully reviewing what actually happened. No one likes to be accused of a crime they didn’t commit. Please be fair.